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How To Get Into Jobs Without Having The Bar
[00:00:00] The attorneys that you placed in different states for job opportunities, did they already pass the bar? Have they already passed multiple state bars?
Okay. There are certain states where it's difficult to get a job if you don't have the bar. Those states are for the most part are going to be like, California, Florida, to a lesser extent. Sometimes, New York, Texas, Delaware, but not a lot of people are interested there.
Other than that, most states are pretty open to you. If you don't have the bar, a lot of them, you can wave into a there's bar reciprocity in BCG. So, you should look at that. Check that out. That would be helpful for you.
But, for the most part, you can get into jobs without having a bar. California is more difficult, but you can still get into firms in California without it. All these states you can wave into. It's not that, important.
For big firms, a lot of firms in California, for example, will require you to have the California bar because a lot of people take the bar, and don't pass it. But, other states, have much higher pass rates and it's not as difficult.
Law schools do care what university you obtained your degree from, which is a question for someone who's a [00:01:00] pre-law student. Certain law schools carry more weight than others.
The big thing for law schools is GPA and LSAT. But, what happens is, when you're a really good law school, let's take Stanford Law. They're going to have, maybe, 800 people in the class. And, they'll probably have, 3000 applications. 500 from the top 10 colleges with 3.75 and 170, and then maybe out of those another, 2,500 from other schools, with the bottom. Stanford Law School can be very picky. Its goal is to fill the class with people with a 3.75 and a 170, at the LSAT because this is what's reported or something close to that. They'll take some people with high LSATs and lower grade points. But, in general, if you went to a top 10 college and they've got 500 people. They're going to admit the 50 with ultra-competitive degrees, they have low-grade point averages, meaning, average in the school. I have a 2.6 and then 200, that's great. Unfortunately, I have some knowledge of this, cause I've been involved in this industry before. But, an [00:02:00] average of 3.6, which could be like Harvard and Stanford. So, what they do is they just basically take everybody and they put them in a pile and then they see who are the people that look like the best people to admit, based on all this information. The most competitive people are going to take all these numbers.
And, if you went to another school, let's say, you went to Oakland University. A school outside Detroit, which is, more of a commuter school. They may still be interested in you. But, with these people that went to the top schools that are much more competitive to get into, your odds of getting into Stanford from Oakland university are not going to be as good. As if, you're on this (unintelligible) and you went to MIT or Caltech. Caltech is not even a top-five school, but it used to be. It should be. But, that's just the point. This is why they do care where you get your degree from. Because, this shows us a pattern of, very heavy achievement, socialization, with all sorts of other competitive people.
